Tony Robbins trifft Alex Hormozi: Was alle übersehen haben

0:00Everybody is talking about this interview. [ __ ] happiness. Stop this [ __ ] happiness. Find a goal worth suffering for. Goal worth suffering for. [ __ ] that. But everybody is missing what's really going on in this interview. So in this video, I'm going to show you and tell you in real time together what's really going on. So now I want to skip ahead a little bit and I want to show you the first real question that Alex asks. And the reason why I'm showing you this is because it kind of reveals a little bit about what Alex's world view is.

0:30>> How do you see the dichotomy between duty and enjoyment as it relates to the impact that you want to make with the business that you have? Notice how Alex did not ask the question, "So Tony, do you enjoy the duties that you have to fulfill? Do you enjoy your obligations or however you want to say it?" For Alex, there's almost like an assumed dichotomy between my duties and my enjoyment.

0:59>> So duty could be a good word, like if you're seeing yourself like a soldier, yeah, right? But I don't look at that way. I look at it as An obligation? >> No, I don't look at obligation as the >> So funny. Like Tony's like, "Well, I don't look at it like a duty." And then Alex immediately picks out the next word that is most similar to like suffering kind of. Like duty, obligation, maybe the next word would be responsibility, but you know, it's a reflection of Alex's whole world view, you know? And I don't know him personally. I don't love the idea of psychoanalyzing him, which I kind of am, but I'm just saying like if you really pay attention to what's behind the words and not just the contents of the words, you'll be shocked how much you can learn about someone, especially if you're doing sales as well. This is like super super important. But my interpretation of this is I think for Alex, duty, obligation to achieve the goal, suffer, pain, this is kind of his whole world view. And he kind of admits this actually, but before he admits it, I want you to see some of the telltale signs if that makes sense.

2:09But let's listen a little bit more to what Tony says. Sorry. No, it's okay, but I I say this because I I saw this in some of your language and and I don't know if this is helpful to you. I don't pretend to coach you in any way. >> Oh, he's definitely coaching him. >> Uh for me at least, I can tell you I look at it as opportunity. I don't feel a sense of duty. I feel a sense of joy in being able to contribute. To me, contribution is what we're made for. >> So I do agree, uh contribution, you could say is what you're made for, but I'd add one small caveat to it. Not all forms of contribution are exactly the same. And it's funny cuz later in this video, Alex says, "I wrote a multi-million dollar check to a charity and I felt nothing." And he even said like, "What's wrong with me? I'm like a psychopath. I'm a piece of s h i t, right?" But the thing is, the act of contribution doesn't satisfy that itch.

3:00You have to pick or surrender to the contribution that is most aligned with you. And again, Alex saying, "I cut a million dollar check and felt nothing." That's proving my exact point. >> But to have a fulfilling life, you have to have something you care about more than yourself. >> So he kind of says it there. I don't love the phrasing, but I do like how he saying like it's something outside of you. It's not like Alex's brain A plus B equals C, okay, charity, this check will impact the most amount of kids, therefore I should do this. It's like but like Tony's giving a very small invitation to move outside of himself.

3:38And that is what I'm saying, too. Because me doing this video, this is actually me surrendering to something outside of myself, you know? Like for me, there's there's much easier ways for me to let's say get clients, but this is the thing that's kind of making me alive right now. It's this and I'm surrendering to it. Well, the energy in your body does not lie. So if you imagine doing something and it creates a lot of energy within you, that's the compass. And I think that's kind of what Tony Robbins is saying, but he does it in a I will say Tony does an does an amazing job meeting Alex exactly where he's at.

4:14He's so fluid in how he does things. And it's also cool because when you look at this like a coaching call and not an interview, because the interview ended about 2 minutes ago at the 3-minute mark. Now it's a coaching call. The whole experience of watching this and listening to this totally changes. This is not an interview. This is now a coaching session. >> If you get into business just to make money, there's nothing wrong with that. Those people usually, you know, even if they succeed, they hit a limit of fulfillment because

4:42>> There's that expression, "Wherever you go, there you are." It's a great expression, you know? People people think that having money will cure all these issues, but it's actually shocking how it cures nothing aside from like survivability and freedom, for sure, but like you know, money ain't fixing the relationship with your dad when you're a kid, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so now I'm going to skip to what I think is the beginning of the real coaching call. And this is when Alex really starts to open up about his world view, because it's very difficult to coach someone if the prospect isn't transparent about like, "Well, this is what I actually think. This is where I'm actually at." Let's listen to his life philosophy.

5:22>> When I was 20, I got obsessed with positive psychology. I read all I had a trunk of books and every single one of them was self-help things like this early on before I had a business, any of that stuff. And I got to a point where I realized I had read all the books and my life hadn't changed. And I it felt very hopeless for me because my subjective being was the same. And so I came up with a mantra for myself, which you might laugh at, which was [ __ ] happiness. >> This is an example of one of those things that [snorts] most people completely miss, okay?

5:49I want to break this down for a moment cuz Alex has this interesting thing of saying something that's super intense and kind of just it's like he says it, but it's not a big deal. He's saying "When I was younger, I could not obtain happiness. I then went on the journey to get it via books, which is nothing more but a tool, books, whatever, whatever, and I could not get happiness. So because I thought that for me it was not attainable, I said, 'Forget happiness.'" If you think about that, that is kind of sad, man.

6:27And he's saying this publicly, which is dope. But I'm just saying I just sort of think people are missing this. One thing I'll say, too, is when it comes to getting things, there's the potential of the person, but there's also a limitation with the tools and the knowledge. Do you see what I'm saying? Imagine there's a girl who's like a compulsive liar, crazy chick, you know?

6:55And a lot of people will just say, "Oh, she's a crazy chick." Or he's just crazy. He's I actually know a guy who's a sort of a compulsive liar. But the thing is, there's a reason why they're doing that. Maybe when they were a kid, they had to lie so they didn't get hit by their parents. Maybe they had to lie to maintain homeostasis in the best way that they could in their household, and lying was the only tool that they had because no one else ever gave them the tools. It was a survivability tool. Just like how for Alex, his survivability tool was F happiness. Now,

7:29>> [snorts] >> am I saying you should mate with a compulsive liar? No, but I'm just inviting you to understand these things. Understanding doesn't mean you have to tolerate it or whatever. You can understand a situation and leave. I could be in an apartment and I can understand that, you know, like there's water leaking, but someone could explain to me, "Well, you know, it's in this country with blah blah blah blah oh, totally get it. I'm gone."

7:54Do you see what I'm saying? Like you don't have to be there, but I'm just saying like you need the right tools as well. It's not just potential. It's not just willpower. And that's why you see, well, for me in my business for coaches and agencies, so many of them are stuck because they don't have the tools or knowledge to know how to make the offer the right the right way. Now, this is Alex. If you have willpower, you have that super determined mindset, and you have the right tools, you're going to crush it. But there was a limitation with his happiness tools. So the way that he coped with that was by saying, "F happiness." In my industry, people will say it's all a scam. It's the same thing. Saying it's all a scam. Happiness is a scam. F it. F coaching. F happiness. It's nothing more but the word cope I I I don't like how it's has a negative connotation around it.

8:38Everyone copes with things, right? And it's fine cuz maybe that's how you survived up until this point, right? But evolve. And Tony talks about this. He's like, "J- Just because something served you for a while, it doesn't mean you have to keep doing it." Maybe lying as a kid served you when you were a kid. Who says well, you're not a kid anymore. That's why you have to parent your inner child, which I think Alex has not done, but you know. Part of me hopes he doesn't watch this video cuz it's like, "Who's this dude psychoanalyzing me?" Like if I was in Alex's position and someone was making a video on me, I'd feel pretty weird, you know? But let's keep watching.

9:12>> Cuz I felt so rejected by the notion because I felt so unattainable for me. >> He's saying I felt rejected by happiness. Makes me almost like a little emotional saying that. I'm not kidding. Maybe it's because I can see a little bit of myself in Alex, to be honest with you. But that's a it's story for another day. >> I used it with I will be useful. That's great. Meaningful Meaningful life is a very useful life, right? >> And that's I'm sorry for pausing so much, but again, so for Alex, he's like, "Hey, I can't be happy. How about I'll be useful?" That's his best option given the tools and knowledge that he he has is to be useful. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's maybe how he survived and you know, felt the best that he could, but it doesn't mean you can't change. And I love this interview coaching call so much because I think this might be one of the first times when Tony's is like, "Hey, you don't have to be like this." And because Tony is Tony and Alex looks up to him so much, it's like this perfect cocktail of transformation.

10:04You see what I'm saying? Cuz someone could say the same thing as Tony, but if Alex doesn't respect him in that way, doesn't see him as the authority, I'm not saying it'll do nothing, but it won't be as powerful, obviously. Let's keep watching. I'll try to stop pausing so much, but I think it's real I I just think this is stuff that people miss. Basically, what I've oriented my entire life around was like that's why duty for me feels meaningful, because it's like, well, you know, I might not enjoy this whole ride, but like everyone else can get stuff out of it.

10:30And so that's that's the the struggle that I have, cuz like I'm okay with that. You're okay with it, but you're torn by it, my friend. Yes, he's not okay with it. Like, just zoom out and look at the optics of this. You don't talk to Tony Robbins that often. In the first 13 minutes of this interview, he's bringing it up. Alex could ask him anything. He could ask him about sales, how like dude, Tony Robbins, I think he's like a $14 billion entrepreneur, right? But Alex is talking about this.

11:02Like, yeah, bro, like you really care about this, otherwise you wouldn't be saying it, man. >> That's obvious, right? >> I will accept that. I'm saying you'll accept it. But would you accept anything else in your other businesses? Would you accept something that's mediocre compared to what you Yeah, so this is when the coaching call really begins. And I love this too, because Tony's like, okay, it's a big deal for you, and you're accepting mediocrity, which you would never accept Like, imagine if Alex was in one of his uh companies in his portfolio, there was a sales guy who had like a 9% close rate or something.

11:34It's like, do you think Alex would be like, well, you know, I think we just have to accept that. >> [laughter] >> Like, Alex would be like, okay, well, we're going to fire him. Why? Because that's his standard. It's a keyword, standard. So, Alex has a low happiness standard because the pursuit of it didn't work because he didn't have the tools and the resources. That's why it's a lower standard, because he thought it was unattainable.

11:58But it's no different than a business person, cuz Alex is a business guy, who's saying, I can never be I can never have a 25% close rate. I can never have a 100K profit month or whatever. But that's just because you didn't have the tools and the resources. It's No, dude, it's no different. And I Oh god, I wish Tony would have said that. What would Alex have said? I don't know. You know, maybe I have to interview him one day. You never know.

12:23I'm going to skip ahead now to a really fascinating part. This is where the interview gets really interesting and a little intense in a good way. >> Yes, so if your emotional ass stops this [ __ ] happiness [ __ ] >> Yeah. Actually say to yourself, no, I deserve happiness, I'm going to create happiness, but I have to do it differently than I've done it before. I can't just get up and just work, cuz I'm trained to work. >> So, the reason why this is so intense too is because it's quite a big deal for a coach to say something like uh hey, like F your coping mechanism.

12:53You know, cuz maybe it doesn't seem that intense when you watch it, but if you look underneath it, it's like telling someone to stop their one coping mechanism that allowed them to feel the best is not a small thing. Do you Do you see what I'm saying? Cuz we all have them. So, and yeah, Tony's just going at it, and I love it, dude. This is I mean, I think it's cuz like I'm very direct in the way that I coach as well. >> I can't I'm not a [ __ ] robot anymore, right? You're way too smart and you got way too big a heart. I know you do. I know everybody knows you well. I've seen you with your wife.

13:24>> Yeah, I agree. Like, when I listen to Alex, obviously he is very analytical, but you can sort of feel this really caring feeling from the guy. But you also sort of feel like this weird disconnect. It's interesting. I've Like, he names it really, really well. >> You're an extraordinary human being. You're You're not just the guy here who does all these wonderful things, and they do wonderful things for people, you're absolutely right. But you're not connected to it, and you don't have something that you're obsessed about that makes you feel fully alive. You're doing it cuz you need to. When you're fully connected with your like your heart, your intuition, your balls, however you want to say it, things start to reveal themselves to you, but then you have to surrender to it. To give you a really stupid, basic example, I have a balcony over there.

14:06I If I'm really connected to my internal being, not just in my analytical A plus B equals C, and trust me, I got that, okay? Like, I I used to Like, dude, I was a victim of this, of like totally being disconnected from this part of me for a long time. So, but let's say I was connected to that, an expression of being connected to it is you'll feel these pulls. I could feel a pull just to go on my balcony and just to sit out there for a little bit.

14:31You know, for Tony, it's feed 100 million people. Obvi- But it is you're still listening to the same thing. Do you see what I'm saying? You're listening to the same source, but the expression's different. But my argument would be like Tony's saying, like get obsessed with something, and I'm saying, well, I think once you connect with this, then everything becomes very clear. Now, there's still a choice though. You could choose not to surrender to what you're supposed to do or whatever, not to You know what I'm saying? Like, not to surrender to the pull to do something.

15:00But I think that's the order of things, and I think understanding the order is is actually quite important. >> between have to, duty, and get to, that's the thing And rich and poor is not money, right? Rich and poor is feeling fully >> Yeah, that's so true, dude. I can tell you a lot of rich people who are poor. I have a friend, actually, he's probably watching this. He I don't want to reveal his identity. Let's just say He has a lot of tens of millions of dollars or worth that much. This guy is so stingy, doesn't want to spend money on anything. And I literally yell at him on the phone, "You are poor! You're poor, dude! You're poorer dog. When I was just starting my business, I was richer than you." Literally, cuz it's like it's not it's an energy. Do you see what I'm saying?

15:45Like, if there's a guy with $10 million and he's like terrified to spend any of it, is he rich? Hell no. Poor is you work your ass off and you have plenty of money and you help all kinds of people, but you don't connect it. And again, I'm not making a judgment. I hope you can feel my heart. It's just I want more for you. And I knew you wouldn't ask me the damn question unless it's true. So, it's like, but you need like your energy has got to be shifted. You need a kick in the ass. You need to get in an environment where you're on [ __ ] fire.

16:12>> I just think he needs to get out of his head, man. Like, you know, it's just he's And I really like Alex, by the way. It's just he's I just feel like he's so much here. And I think what Tony Robbins is saying, like, yeah, kick in the ass, like I I just feel like these are all different ways of saying the same thing. Like, dude, get out of here. You know, if you get kicked in the ass, you'll feel pain, and you're like, "Oh my god, my ass." You know, that could be one one way to like drop into it, you know? Kicked in the balls could be better, who knows.

16:39>> But then you got so caught up in the push, I think you've missed some of the pull for your life. >> Yeah, exactly. So, that's exactly what I was saying. When I was saying, like, when you connect more, you'll feel the pull to do things. Because the brain, he's right, it's a push. But when you're more in your body, it's a pull to do things. Most people have opposite problem of Alex. I think most people are too emotional, and they're not nearly logical enough. Like, whenever I talk about this topic, I always just think of investing.

17:06Like, you'll see people who want to who have huge dreams of starting some kind of business, but like investing into getting help is like a big deal. They're so emotional. They turn into like a kid almost. Like, and I don't mean that in an insulting way. Like, imagine a kid who's super scared of like losing his toy, losing his nightlight or or something, or losing his bear when he would sleep. I used I used to have a bear when I slept, so I'm not I'm not hating, you know?

17:31But I'm saying it's like that kid is so scared to lose that bear. It's like that's how most people are with money. They're terrified. Do you think Alex is like that? No. But that's also interesting about this interview. It's almost like not almost none of you are like him. Some of you would love to think that you're logical, but I I used to say publicly, if you're making under like 40 grand a month in profit and you want to have your own business, by definition you're not logical.

17:58Because to get to that level, you literally just have to be logical. Okay, so now I want to skip to a part where Alex speaks from his heart. I think it's the first time the entire interview, and it's one word, okay? But I'm going to prepare you for it. So, I want you to notice something. He's going to do one movement and say one word, but I believe this is his first real word from his heart.

18:23Pay attention, and pay attention to how you feel when he says it. That's it. This is how much Alex needs to connect. I'm going to replay the whole thing for you, okay? It's when he goes, "No, I get it." >> Those are the places that go. So, I'm pretty passionate about this answer. Did you Did you feel it? Am I crazy? Compare that to when he said, "F happiness." It's [ __ ] happiness. You'll feel different. You know, I I think that's the first time he really uh did it. So, it's working. Tony Robbins is like getting this guy out of here and into here. And I I think he's one of the only people in the world who could do this with this guy, I think. So, now I want to skip to uh probably the most fun part of the whole interview here. Okay, so Tony said some stuff, and he's kind of just saying the same thing over and over again in different ways so that Alex can get it. And I love this part, because Tony's like, okay, so what did you think? And Alex Notice how Alex snaps immediately back into hyper-analytical Alex. So, there's two Well, three things. So, one was uh the emotional connection part. The second was the framing of the opportunity. And then the third was around suffering. And so, I want to touch on each of those.

19:29Okay, right. So, from the suffering perspective, I find it really interesting because passion comes from the Latin passio, right? Uh which means >> This is a totally not related thing. Why do people talk about like yeah, so like the word passion comes from the Latin word this. Like, yeah, and who cares? bring or to endure. >> Yeah, I know. And so that made actually a tremendous amount of sense for me. And so I actually reframed that whole concept as like find a goal worth suffering for. And so I've been very accepting of my suffering. And to to your point, I actually don't have a lot of anxiety. That's actually not not the issue that I deal with. I deal with the other opposite the opposite stream of not giving a [ __ ] Is it worth it? Who cares? Why bother? You know, whatever.

20:13So that was on the the suffering piece. Please, yeah. I don't Yeah, like I'm just you know, you seriously need some coaching and like I'm going to just like do it. I'm I'm wide open. Yeah.

20:39Yeah, that's so interesting. Like a goal worth suffering for. Why don't you have a goal and you enjoy the process of getting the goal? Like it's so funny. Like you can Like I think of like the gym or something. It's like dude, what if I had a goal of having x size arms or whatever. It's like okay, I could enjoy the process of the gym. It's like No, I got I got to suffer. I got to suffer for this, you know? But again, you can this is also why I revealed a little bit of his worldview in the first question of the video where Alex said like so what's the dichotomy between duty and uh like pain and not or not enjoying it. It's just like dude, it's such a strong pattern with this dude. And again, I just feel like a lot of people aren't fully seeing this. And like I think the world has to see this.

21:25Interesting. >> [laughter] >> That's so fascinating that you don't want to suffer horribly for your goals. Wow. Yeah, and there's always going to be things you don't necessarily enjoy. But the point is it's the default. It's like the default day-to-day isn't suffering. That's the point.

21:58Exactly. And if you made it a goal to pick a goal that aligns with you and to enjoy the process and that's the standard that you set for yourself, what do you think will happen? It'll happen. You know? So it's the power of belief, man. This is the typical mindset stuff. But I think it's deeper than that, though. Because you know, it's like you'll my my coach says to me, you'll always get what you want. It's an interesting a very interesting phrase. It's like, well, yeah, you'll suffer if you want it. You certainly can. It's very easy to suffer.

22:31It's also very easy not to suffer. You know? Yeah, but let's keep watching. >> [laughter] >> This part of you is too. Cuz your brain is always going to reduce things. It's like Yeah, and again, conversely, I think most people need to do the opposite.

22:57The thing is I find this this is so interesting this interview, man. Because most people watching this, their takeaway is like, oh yeah, I know I I got to get more here. No, you probably don't. You should be more here. I'm serious. Maybe you weren't expecting me to say that. But it's like Look, in my experience and it depends on the person, depends on the niche. I just think people are so emotional these days. Like it's unreal. It's like, hey, maybe it's not so bad.

23:22But for Alex, it's like, hey, maybe you should just build a sandcastle or something for a little bit and laugh like a kid. Most people don't need to do that. They do need to get off their ass and do some stuff. You see what I'm saying? But those people will take this, yeah, I'm going to enjoy myself more. No, you you probably should do kind of the opposite. That's why I love this interview so much. But for Alex, no, he he he needs to build a sandcastle. All right, so now I'm going to very quickly skip to my favorite part of the interview where Tony Robbins basically uh does an active parts work psychological thing. Because parts work basically is everybody has different parts in them.

24:00To give you an example, I assume mostly guys are watching this video. Like most guys on average have this idea of like, okay, I'll be like a playboy or like I'll be a loving husband or like I'll live alone in the woods with the wolves or like when I was a kid, I had this idea of like just being alone on a tropical island and just living there. Like these are all very contradictory things, right? So these are different parts. And we develop these parts for many reasons, um but a lot of it is established in childhood, you know? So again, Alex's predominant default part is this hyper-analytical person and he literally nicknames himself I'll I'll I'll play the video.

24:38Mhm. That's my part. >> [laughter] >> Is it Friday night Layla or is this Tuesday morning Layla?

25:06Yeah, that this is totally true. It's funny the way that cuz I've actually done parts work meditations for for people. You know? And essentially, it might sound weird, but essentially it's like you want to be like, okay, like for me like I had a part of me that I would call extreme Mitch where I just did kind of like extreme things. I had a part of me where it was like, you know, like super success get rich Mitch.

25:32Right? And I'm yeah, I don't want to name all them either. Can be a little bit personal. But yeah, like it's I didn't like use different labels, but I use like characteristics or whatever. You know, like when I go to the gym turbo Mitch is engaged, you know? And it's not bad to have parts, but if you're not aware of them, then by definition you're fragmented and you're not integrated. And the life can get real weird if you're fragmented, which is most people.

26:05Yeah. Yeah, I love how Tony's like lovingly making fun of him. Oh, everything sucks. I got to suffer for the goal. Pain. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is key. It's super normal, too, to shift like very quickly. It's almost kind of like a shocking cuz without going into too too much detail cuz I've done this work for like 5 years. That's partly why I'm doing this.

26:37The like there's like an unbelievable amount of triggers. And it could be any It could be seeing a color could trigger you. Anything. It could be being asked a certain kind of question. Anything could be a trigger. And if you're not integrated, that part just takes over and you're totally unconscious of it. Cuz if you're not conscious of the parts, by definition that part's going to take over and you have no idea.

27:02So it's cool that Tony in real time is like pointing it out. He's like, ah, like analytical Alex and I'll let him talk. Analytical Alex. Analytical Alex. Analytical Alex.

27:37Anabolic Alex. >> [laughter] >> It's a pretty good name. Ana- like I feel like I want to create a part of me just to nickname it anabolic Mitch, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and without going into too too much detail cuz I mean, bro, this is a big topic. But yeah, like we all have different parts. The problem is not the parts. The problem is not being integrated.

28:08And then the last thing I'll say here, too. It's not about like disowning these parts of ourselves or something. It's just like you just have to know what part to bring up when it's appropriate, right? Like for example, uh going back to my example of how I said, you know, when it uh comes to investing, most people are like kids with a toy. But if you're playing with your cat or you're with your partner or you're watching TV, it's probably ideal to be in that state. So the problem is not the state. The the problem is the moment you choose to enter that state.

28:39You know? Cuz I have like uh dude, I have like super stupid parts of me where I just act like a goofball. I'm not really bringing that part out here, although maybe it's not a bad idea to do that on camera. However, like the part that I'm like, okay, let me inform. Like there's like informative {slash} mildly entertaining Mitch that I'm sort of like trying to bring up here. But I'm conscious of this. I'm like, okay. Like I know the different parts about myself.

29:04And some parts will kind of just go away. Analytical Alex, though, will not go away. There's no way. And the end goal of parts work is to essentially be in like one solid stream, one flow where everything is integrated. But integration doesn't mean you're like you're you can If Alex was totally integrated, which he is absolutely not, by the way. He is fragmented. I don't know how fragmented he is. Uh usually people with screwed up childhoods are extremely fragmented.

29:32Just I'm just saying that that's how it is. I don't know Alex's childhood. But like let's assume If Alex was totally integrated, and I'm not fully integrated, by the way. He's still analytical, but he's not analytical when it's weird to be analytical. Like Tony Robbins in this moment is very loving and speaking from his heart. I mean, there could be conversations where Tony is super analytical. And it would almost be like weird for Alex to be super heart-centered or something. Do you Do you see what I'm saying? Like if if they were running numbers on something, like it's more just like, "Okay, what are the numbers? Okay."

30:07Like, they're literally just doing math. Like, for that situation, it's probably better to be more analytical. Do you see what I'm saying? And my coach would always say, "This is like some of the most important work that you could do." And I agree. Because it's so dangerous to be unconscious. The danger and consequences of being unconscious is Well, I mean, look at Alex, man. You know, I mean, maybe bad example cuz he's very successful. But I'm just saying he's basically saying he's never happy. You know?

30:33Do like Do you want $100 million and to be miserable or do you want like $100,000 to be super joyful and happy like Tony Robbins? And you don't have to choose one, but I'm just saying. >> is everything and compares it. Whereas the heart magnifies everything. It takes the little things and makes them bigger. What made you attracted to your wife? When you first met her? By the way, who's this guy right here?

30:57Anabolic Alex. So, Alex said, "How do I go from my head to my heart?" earlier. And you can't think your way there. And this is something I really had to learn. So, what Tony is doing is he's giving Alex reference points in real time. So, Alex is like, "Well, how do I get there?" One way is to is for someone to give you constant reference points, data points. So, if Alex has 100 reference points of, let's say, being heart-centered and knowing what that feels like, that's an anchor. And instead of thinking his way to that feeling, he can kind of like close close his eyes and reconnect to that feeling with Tony where he was heart-centered.

31:36And then he can operate from that place, and he can make a conscious decision to let's say, "Okay, for the next 10 minutes, I'm just going to do everything from this place, whether it's making eggs, having a conversation, watching TV." Like, it it doesn't matter what it is. It matters where it's coming from. Do you see what I'm saying? And I know this all too well. You know what I'm saying? Cuz I dude, that when he asked earlier, like, "How do I get from here to here?"

32:02It's like, dude, that's exact man. For me, it was like a long time. And I needed a lot of data points and reference points. So, that's why I'm a little bit emphatic about a this point here. But let's keep watching. >> [laughter] >> Um the honest truth was that I I once I met her, I didn't want to not be with her. Yes, why? What qualities about her did you not want to be without? I think she let me be me.

32:28Yeah, she loved you for being you. >> Yeah, she just never tried to change me, and I think that was what was so unique. >> That's quite miraculous. I have I'm fortunate to have the same thing. I found that Sage loved me not because I was Tony Robbins, she just loved me. I never experienced that before, right? So, and what else about her besides the fact that she loved you unconditionally? She also loved the same stuff that I Yes. Um and so, when we talked, we just wouldn't stop. Um and I feel like it has been one very long conversation. We spent two two weekends apart since the day we met. Wow, that's beautiful. Like, not in the same literally the same place.

32:59>> Does Does she bring out analytical Alex or anabolic Alex? We work together, so she sees both sides. I'm not asking that. I'm saying which one can she bring out if she Oh, she can bring out whoever she wants. >> [laughter] >> That's right. That's her power, right? But who does she want more? >> Oh, she for sure wants anabolic Yes, of course. Cuz look at this man before me. This Like, you're a different man right now than when we started here, right? Can you feel that? Yeah. I didn't do [ __ ] This is you. But if you don't identify like think about it, the strongest force in the human personality for any human being, you, me, doesn't matter. The strongest force is that we need to stay consistent with the way we identify ourselves, right? Identity is the controlling force of a human being. If you have an identity that says, "I always find the way to victory," you'll find the victory. If Yeah, so I let that one play longer because yeah, it's just such an important point, man. You know?

33:50And I I actually know people like this. People who say things like "Uh coaching programs never work out for me. I'm never going to find a good partner. Everyone cheats. Uh I'm always the person who gets cheated on." And it's like, yeah, you definitely will if you keep talking like that. versus like, "Well, everything works out for me eventually." May I'm not saying you have a 100% success rate, but it's like, "No, of course it's going to be fine. Of course I'm going to make money. Of course I'm going to meet a great person who treats me the way I deserve." Yeah.

34:18Of course. You know? But again, these are all identities. Just like like analytical Alex is the same as woe is me Tom, you know? It's like, you have to be very aware of these stories. Because, you know, if it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when you start to adopt these identities. And you can get caught in a positive loop or a negative loop.

34:44Like for me, I made my first dollar on the internet in like Oh, man, I I I wrote an ebook. And I I wrote an ebook. And I contacted a website, and I said, "Can I write a free article for you?" cuz I knew about SEO. Cuz my first sort of job was I was an intern at a cool SEO company, so I learned how to rank keywords and stuff. So, I said, "Hey, I was an intern here. I can make a post that'll rank in your thing, and in return, don't pay me. Just I'll just promote my my book or something." And he was like, "Sure, okay." And I did that, and I'll never forget it, man. I was in Vancouver in my apartment with literal [ __ ] literal cockroaches. I remember I woke up to mice dying due to mouse traps.

35:27I haven't thought about that in a while. But hey, man, that $1.25 that I made from that ebook totally changed my life. I don't know why I mean, for me, it was like, "Oh, dude, I can do this." I I don't know like I don't know why I don't even I couldn't even tell you why I was like that. It cuz I I didn't have some self-belief in myself. It was just like I just Well, if I can do it if I did it, I can do it. >> [laughter]

35:53>> How dumb does that sound? If I did it, I can do it. I don't want to get too off-topic, but just as a Look, there's a process for everything. You don't have to believe in yourself. Just surrender to the process, and you'll you'll get there, you know? But I want to focus more on this. But yeah, just to summarize that point, the story that you tell yourself, you have to be very aware of what it is cuz it sort of determines your entire life. So, I have one more little clip that I want to play for you here. I'm not saying get rid of it. I'm saying let's expand it. And in you, I don't have to I don't teach you [ __ ] You've done everything you do. But what I could offer you is to conscious choice to find anabolic Alex.

36:30>> [laughter] >> So funny. Like, he just laughs. You know? Like, when he laughs like that, he's not in like analytical Alex mode. It's so funny. >> Put you there and put him in charge. Your level of happiness go and then stop your hypnosis. You hypnotized yourself a long time. It's time to transcend. Transcend means end the trance. Okay. Whatever you say to yourself over and over again, people, you know, you tell a lie big enough, loud enough, long enough, sooner or later people believe you. You've told yourself a lie, "Fuck happiness." Mhm. No, [ __ ] suffering.

37:01Mhm. That's got to be your new one. [ __ ] Imagine that. Imagine how different his life would be if he changed his mantra to like F suffering. Dude, oh my god. Think about that. But it's no different than like changing your mantra to like everything's going to work out for me. I'm going to make every coaching program I join work out. Every date's going to be great. And even if it's not great, the default eventually, if you stay in that state, will be great. This is what people mean when they say like change your frequency.

37:28It's like if you're in like an abundant frequency, it just means your new default by definition is going to be abundant. And expressions of abundance is receiving money, obviously. Do you see what I'm saying? But most people don't make that shift. They're always in scarcity. You know, actually, it's funny. You know buying this watch, it was like 76 grand. I Yeah, that was 78 with tax or something. And I just It was like, "You know what? I feel abundant. I'm going to do it." I was pumped. And like whenever I make big purchases like that, great things happen. It's so funny. And like cuz actions the one thing I would add on here is actions a lot of the time too change your state and frequency.

38:08Do you see what I'm saying? It's not just like affirmations. I'm not hating on affirmations, but I'm just saying don't just do affirmations and not uh >> [snorts] >> actions. But yeah, I mean, I just feel like this interview is fascinating cuz I'm a big uh fan of parts work, and I would argue this might be the most Right now, this video has This video has 400,000 views. Dude, I've ne- I don't think there's been a video on parts work that's gotten 400,000 views in like 20 hours, you know? But the bigger reason is I think a lot of people are not aware of what this is cuz it is parts work. This is what this is.

38:45And it's also identity. It's so It dude, like you're watching a world-class coach coach Alex Hormozi, and it's working live. It's pretty gangster. But I feel like a lot of this went over people's heads. Like, I think a lot of people like this, but I think a lot of people miss some things. And the funny thing is, I'm skipping around in this video. I'm you know, I'm >> [laughter] >> Like Like, I'm There's a lot more that I could say, but you know, it I want to keep it under an hour, you know? The goal was I thought this was going to be like 20 to 25 minutes, but uh yeah, I guess the big takeaway here is you know, the big takeaway is to be aware of your own parts.

39:22Because if you want your life to be great and awesome, you're you can't you can't have that life if you're hyper unconscious of everything. You have to know yourself. You have to love yourself, too, man. Which is hard for me, but it's hard for a lot of people. Because, you know, it's like love, empathy, and understanding towards yourself. Which is kind of the opposite of like the men's advice out there. And uh trust me, I I was a Most people in my life have described me as a masochist, which I thought was kind of I kind of liked it.

39:56If I'm being honest with you. But, you know, it's like being a masochist Now I'm Now I'm talking about me. Being a masochist, being totally disconnected from everything, how you feel, being like a guy who rams his head through the wall. You know, don't need sleep, going to go Just like I was like that. And it served me for a while, being disconnected from my own emotions or whatever. But it it serves you until it doesn't serve you anymore. And for Alex you can clearly tell it's not serving him as much now. But that like but you can honor that part of yourself. I still honor the rhino Mitch. You know? Just like like grind, copywriting exercises, coaching exercise. Like dude, I was a I was a psycho, in a good way. I was a good psycho, you know? I was a psycho towards myself, you know? That's where it when people call me a masochist. But uh Yeah, I don't know where I'm going to post this video. Um but my main intention with my channel is to show coaches and agencies how to grow their business. But I just thought this was such a cool video to react to, and it touches on a lot of the mindset stuff. So Yeah, but uh yeah, my name is Mitch. If you're a business owner, coach, or agency, feel free to subscribe, comment, and if you want to connect with your internal anabolic Alex, whatever your name is, anabolic blah, then subscribe, because Well, I'm going to go to bed.

41:17But uh yeah, tomorrow in the gym, I'm definitely going to connect consciously consciously with anabolic Mitch. So, thanks for watching. Peace.